{"id":83002,"date":"2021-01-25T16:00:29","date_gmt":"2021-01-25T15:00:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/?p=83002"},"modified":"2022-04-04T10:31:45","modified_gmt":"2022-04-04T09:31:45","slug":"interview-with-nubiyan-twist-teaching-music-in-lockdown","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/interview-with-nubiyan-twist-teaching-music-in-lockdown\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Nubiyan Twist \u2013 how to teach online music lessons"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><span><i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nubiyantwist.co.uk\/\">Image&nbsp;Credit:&nbsp;Nubiyan&nbsp;Twist<\/a><\/i><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2><span style=\"color:#3366FF\"> What\u2019s it like to start again as a music teacher when you\u2019re used to life on tour? We asked two members of the band Nubiyan Twist how they\u2019ve coped.<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Musicians worldwide have found themselves looking for alternative income as the pandemic\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/the-global-live-events-industry-lost-more-than-30-billion-in-2020\/\">stranglehold on live music continues.<\/a> Are you a musician whose life has been <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/artist-support-pandemic\/\">put on hold?<\/a> Passing your wisdom on to eager students and watching them progress as a result can be very satisfying. But how does teaching online actually work? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We spoke to <b>Jonny Enser<\/b> and <b>Denis Scully<\/b> of band <a href=\"https:\/\/strut.k7store.com\/nubiyan-twist\">Nubiyan Twist<\/a> about the frustrations and rewards of teaching music in the brave new post-Covid world. Usually they\u2019d be bringing the noise as trumpeter and tenor sax player in the nine-piece <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/8-new-jazz-artists-for-2021\/\">afro-jazz<\/a> band but they\u2019re currently both focused on work as music educators. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We chat to the pair just as Nubiyan Twist are gearing up for the release of their third album <em><a href=\"https:\/\/strut.k7store.com\/release\/203119-nubiyan-twist-freedom-fables\">Freedom Fables<\/a><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/strut.k7store.com\/release\/203119-nubiyan-twist-freedom-fables\">.<\/a> The sprawling, magnetic collective\u2019s latest single <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/track\/7EKgrGZqebKLFiNaLbvb7X?si=h2WaiMnRQaGZbDt5o15bww\">&#8220;If I Know&#8221; featuring K.O.G.<\/a> is taken from the album \u2013 an exhilarating Afrobeat stomper with energy barely contained by speakers. You can imagine the heat from the stage \u2013 but that\u2019s not something that\u2019s possible right now, as we discuss.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Read on for what to expect as an online music student, advice for new teachers, Zoom tips, how to stay switched on in lockdown as both student and teacher, and what the future holds for Nubiyan Twist, one of the most exciting <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/uk-music-releases-new-report-outlining-strategy-to-restart-live-music-industry-when-safe\/\">live bands<\/a> creating music in the UK at the moment. Turns out there\u2019s plenty of rewards from music teaching, when you least expect it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>Thanks for taking the time to talk! We\u2019ve all had to adapt to\nthis crazy new world we\u2019ve found ourselves in, and musicians have been hit\nespecially hard. How did you find the adjustment when the first lockdowns\nkicked in?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b><span>Jonny:<\/span> <\/b>Impossible.&nbsp;It honestly felt like the rug had been pulled out from under my life. I had never planned for teaching to be my primary career and before 2020 it only made up about 30% of my income. So\u2026 the financial adjustment was severe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b><span>Denis:<\/span> <\/b>Yeah, it\u2019s been tough. I actually wasn\u2019t doing any teaching before. I was just gigging, and then Covid hit and kind of forced my hand. So all the students I have now I\u2019ve picked up since the start of lockdown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b><span>Jonny:<\/span> <\/b>For me, in an average year teaching is part of my expression as an artist. It also helps provide financial consistency when gigs are slim, and for emotional and inspirational consistency when touring is intense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b><span>Denis:<\/span> <\/b>It\u2019s really just kind of helping me to supplement a crappy <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/how-to-make-money-musician\/\">income<\/a> right now, so I\u2019m not purely surviving off it. But it definitely helps. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b><span>Jonny:<\/span> <\/b>Routine is how I\u2019m getting through this time. I\u2019m trying to be kind to myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align:center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"If I Know\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/oMR4v3YBU5Y?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>What about your existing students, Jonny, how did they find the switch\nto online learning?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b><span>Jonny:<\/span> <\/b>Some have completely fallen by the wayside. Others have really engaged with it. The first lockdown saw all of my peripatetic teaching disappear&nbsp;for months so now it&#8217;s mostly online or resource based. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>You\u2019re both\nmulti-instrumentalists. Which instruments do you teach? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>Trumpet, trombone, tuba, <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/theoryboard-returns-to-teach-music-theory-whilst-making-music-producing-simple\/\">music theory<\/a> and jazz harmony. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>Mainly saxophone, piano and improvisation. I do a bit of flute and clarinet, and harmony as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>\u2026And what platform do you use to teach online?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>I\u2019ve been using Zoom since the start of the lockdowns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>I find Zoom has the most adaptable interface for sharing resources.&nbsp;But whatever the student prefers\u2026 Facebook, Google Meets, Zoom, or Skype.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>Can you think of any surprising upsides to remote learning? It\nmust be hard to keep the same level of engagement as with lessons in person.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>There\u2019s quite a few upsides! You don\u2019t have to worry about hiring a space \u2013 whereas before you might have paid a tenner an hour to hire a practise room, you\u2019re now at home. You\u2019re also not restricted by time like those places, so you\u2019re not leaking over the time of spaces you\u2019ve hired. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center\"><p>Oftentimes students don\u2019t play their best in the lesson \u2013 because there\u2019s other factors, you\u2019re nervous or whatever. Whereas with people at home practising, they can record a couple of takes of something they like, send something they\u2019re confident with over to me, then I\u2019m getting their best product as well as hearing what they\u2019re like in the lesson. <\/p><cite>Denis<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>Online is great for sharing resources and making sure all students have what they need for homework. It&#8217;s much easier to keep everything accessible rather than on pieces of paper that students will eventually lose\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>I\u2019ve had more time to analyse my students\u2019 playing. Due to the restrictions of Zoom \u2013 the internet\u2019s not always the best for reliably playing along with each other \u2013 I\u2019ve been forced to get my students to send over a lot more recordings and videos of themselves playing. It also means they can send stuff when they\u2019re feeling a bit more comfortable rather than in a lesson setting. That means <em>I\u2019m<\/em> a bit more focused in the lesson, too, because I\u2019m getting the chance to analyse all these recordings throughout the week.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align:center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Nubiyan Twist  - Tittle Tattle feat Cherise\" width=\"720\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/hyQEAbl-JaM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>So it\u2019s a different experience, but not necessarily in a bad way. How about new students? Lots of people looking for a project in lockdown are considering trying a new instrument \u2013 or perhaps they&#8217;re complete newcomers to music looking to start learning an instrument. What are your top practical tips for anyone taking music lessons in lockdown? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>I\u2019d encourage any new student to take a big bulk of lessons. People can get disheartened after the first one or two weeks when they\u2019re looking for immediate results. Give it a good trial. Both you and your teacher get a better opportunity to focus on the long game and there\u2019s more chance of you improving properly. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>Be prepared for your lesson, have everything you need to succeed ready. Listen and be patient.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>Find the best place in your house with good internet, making sure you\u2019re there ready to go with five or ten minutes before your lesson; have your cup of tea sitting there, have your instrument set up. That counts for both the student and teacher, in case of problems with Zoom, someone\u2019s password\u2019s not working, or whatever.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center is-style-large\"><p>Education is an incredible social phenomenon, hugely undervalued by many. Enjoy chatting with a specialist who has made the time to offer you support and inspiration. Do your best \u2013 ambition and determination are some of the greatest forms of self-love.<\/p><cite>Jonny<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>With school lessons, there isn&#8217;t&nbsp;really that much space for individual&nbsp;attention and feedback, as the lessons are short with up to four students at a time. It feels a bit more like I\u2019m making instructional videos than interacting live with students.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>Yeah, and with Zoom lessons there\u2019s always going to be some sort of delay when playing with each other, so there\u2019s going to be a lot more talking involved than in a normal one-on-one lesson in person. Just be wary that sometimes it might come across more as like a lecture that you\u2019re watching, with a few little demos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>Anyone using online video software should invest in a LAN internet cable. WIFI doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;cut it and leads to too many frustrating circumstances.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>I would also say: ask your teacher to record the lesson or be really strict with your notetaking. Then you can spend the week going back over your lesson, not being worried about forgetting everything that was said. There\u2019s not going to be as many times as normal for the teacher to demonstrate whatever you\u2019re working on during the lesson. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>I guess one good thing about our mass switch to online living is\nhow it\u2019s made us more appreciative of how easily we can interact with people,\nno matter where they\u2019re based. Have you gained new students you wouldn\u2019t have\nbefore, because of online teaching?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>I definitely had a load of new people I wouldn\u2019t have reached otherwise. I had two students in Australia, one in America and then a load in England, so it was quite nice to teach people from all over the place. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>Yes! I have a student in Bristol, and before he would only have lessons with me when he was in London or I\u2019d go there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center is-style-large\"><p>Take up music, you won\u2019t regret it. It\u2019s the perfect time and it\u2019s such a good thing for your soul.<\/p><cite>Denis<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>You\u2019re used to playing with Nubiyan Twist, touring, booking gigs\nand recording as a band. It\u2019s a whole different mindset when teaching. Any tips\nfor musicians like yourselves who are looking to start teaching right now?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>Good luck, be prepared, be consistent, go the extra mile and keep in touch with your students regularly. I always have quite close friendships with my students and we have a lot of respect for each other. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>Think of the long game. As I was saying before, I would strongly recommend musicians looking to teach now during Covid to encourage any new students to take on a package, four to 10 lessons or something similar. One, to secure a longer period of income for the teacher. But also, when I\u2019m teaching anyway, I like to know that I\u2019m going to have a chance to develop the student. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center is-style-large\"><p>If you have four private students a week that is your rent&#8230; so definitely worth doing! Teaching in schools is even more consistent most of the time, so worth investigating your local music hubs.<\/p><cite>Jonny<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>It\u2019s true that during a period like this there\u2019s a lot of people looking to start up new instruments and <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/learn-to-play-music-from-disney-and-pixars-soul-with-yousician\/\">take up music<\/a> for the first time, but sadly there\u2019s also lots of people who are going to do it once and you won\u2019t hear from them again. If someone\u2019s saying \u2018oh, I\u2019ll take a lesson now and I might take another in a month or two\u2019, they\u2019ll end up having to repeat the previous lesson \u2013 obviously that\u2019s dependent on how much people practice and stuff like that! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>Remember that life is teaching us patience whether we like it or not. I learnt how to teach on the job, but now have 10 years\u2019 experience. I\u2019ve made most of the mistakes I needed to make along the way, whether that be getting too invested&nbsp;or burning out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align:center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Nubiyan Twist - Keeper feat. Cherise (Live in Stockholm)\" width=\"720\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/uFLsK8srKDU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>What are Nubiyan Twist\u2019s plans for 2021, pandemic or no pandemic?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>We&#8217;re releasing our <a href=\"https:\/\/strut.lnk.to\/FreedomFables\">third studio album <\/a><i><a href=\"https:\/\/strut.lnk.to\/FreedomFables\">Freedom&nbsp;Fables<\/a><\/i> in March on Strut Records, which has been pushed back from September 2020. Along with the tour that has been rescheduled four times so far\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>They\u2019re trying to schedule some stuff, it keeps getting cancelled\u2026 I think I wouldn\u2019t worry too much about the<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/sz9iPxElk0k\"> live shows<\/a> and stuff this year, just focus on getting our album out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>This album has been a mad journey, contouring different collaborations about their life stories. I\u2019m really excited for it to be released. I also have two solos on this record which is new for me! I used to be content playing my parts the best I could, but I\u2019m learning to step into the limelight and enjoy the opportunity to express myself. I am in great company in this project and love the brotherhood it\u2019s brought.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>You have a better idea of the longer picture during Covid because you kind of know you\u2019re not going to have gigs and you\u2019re not going to be rehearsing or jamming with other musicians for a longer period\u2026 so there\u2019s not as much pressure to be focused on immediate results. We can think \u2018OK we can do this now, but what\u2019s this going to sound like in six months?\u2019 When we\u2019re gigging every week, we\u2019re looking at repertoire all the time, we\u2019re looking at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/juuNU8yeYWk\">new tunes,<\/a> whereas now everyone\u2019s kind of got the ability to focus more on a long game I suppose.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>I wonder if the challenges of the year have changed the way you\nteach\u2026 do you think you\u2019ll keep teaching online after the pandemic?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>I\u2019ve learnt to be kind to myself! Whilst I am an ambassador of my instrument, it&#8217;s not the be-all and end-all whether a student keeps it up, as long I impart a love for music and they enjoy the session. Yes, I had online lessons before the pandemic, and will continue to after it&#8217;s over. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>Yeah, there\u2019s been plenty of challenges, but I probably will still do a bit of teaching after the pandemic. Like I said, I don\u2019t normally do a lot of it, so when I do teach I would rather take on slightly more advanced students, or have a student for a good six months a year and really focus on their development.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><strong>And how about your own plans as musicians outside of the band and working in education?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>Plans for 2021? <i>(laughs)<\/i> The plan is to have no plan. Everyone has been trying to for the last year, <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/glastonbury-music-festival-cancelled-for-second-year-running\/\">rescheduling gigs<\/a> and all that, and I\u2019ve just completely ignored all of it! I think it\u2019s stupid trying to plan right now. So I\u2019m literally taking it day by day. I\u2019ve started doing a bit of writing but I\u2019m just kind of flat out practising. Hopefully when this all blows over we\u2019ll all have a chance to show off the stuff we\u2019ve been working on!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If we keep thinking \u2018oh we\u2019ll have a tour next month\u2019, then that gets cancelled, \u2018oh we\u2019ll have another one the following month\u2019, then <em>that<\/em> gets cancelled\u2026 you\u2019re just going to go on ups and downs, and the downs are going to be much harder than the ups, because you\u2019re never <em>getting<\/em> the ups. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center is-style-large\"><p>I think especially for people in the arts, your plan this year should be not to plan. I think if musicians take that approach, we\u2019ll be a bit more sane.<\/p><cite>Denis<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Jonny: <\/b>I\u2019ve started my own journey with my project \u2018Matters&#8217; which embodies all my favourite influences in a way that I can really take charge of. I\u2019m the driving force in the project through developing my own voice from collaborative composition, and I\u2019ll be releasing a six track EP in April \u2013 so keep a look out&nbsp;for that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/jonnyenser\/\">on my Instagram.<\/a> &#8216;Matters&#8217; brings together my beatmaking, brass band and spiritual jazz.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Denis: <\/b>I\u2019d just like to say, if anyone is thinking of taking up an instrument \u2013 whether you\u2019re brilliant or whether you\u2019re muck at it, you will find a bit of pleasure out of it! It\u2019s the same with people starting baking, golf, whatever you\u2019re trying out this year. Just do it!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4>Some of the best and brightest musicians now have the time to pass on their expertise to eager students. It\u2019s heartening to know that musicians who are unable to play live are finding their own inspiration through turning to teaching during the pandemic.<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">About\nJonny Enser:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Jonny is a vibrant and exciting trumpeter who has been working as a session musician, educator and live performer for over 10 years. He studied with Neil Yates at Salford University and graduated from Leeds College of Music with an honours degree in Jazz Performance in 2013. He has performed in Cuba and lived in New Orleans, playing regularly in every major bar. Through working with the behemoth project Nubiyan Twist he has collaborated with artists such as Pat Thomas, Mulatu Astatke and Soweto Kinch. For the past 5 years he has been working to deliver peripatetic and workshop-based courses in jazz, brass band and classical music with educational hubs like Hackney Music Service.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Whilst hailing from rural stock, he has vastly diverse interests and has been a motivated band leader and featured soloist in various ensembles appearing globally, and has accrued the versatility, performance experience and virtuosic knowledge to help guide any audience and student alike.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">About Denis Scully:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Denis\u2019s musical journey started at the age of five. He studied classical piano at the Royal Irish Academy of Music under a full scholarship, and at age 13 was accepted on another scholarship to study saxophone. He studied at the Royal Irish Academy of Music until he was 18, before moving to the UK to study BA (Hons) Jazz at Leeds College of Music. Since graduating he has played and toured all over the UK and Europe, performing on main stages at Glastonbury Festival, Electric Picnic in Ireland, Istanbul Jazz Festival, Fusion in Germany, and Bahrain Jazz Festival. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">While Denis performs a lot of neo-soul, hip-hop and reggae, his focus has always been jazz and improvisation. Denis\u2019s influences are musicians such as Chris Potter, Troy Roberts, Seamus Blake and Dexter Gordon.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What\u2019s it like to start again as a music teacher when you\u2019re used to life on tour? 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