{"id":106036,"date":"2025-09-23T15:40:53","date_gmt":"2025-09-23T14:40:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/?p=106036"},"modified":"2025-09-23T15:40:56","modified_gmt":"2025-09-23T14:40:56","slug":"the-music-industry-doubles-down-on-lawsuit-against-suno-adding-fresh-stream-ripping-allegations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/the-music-industry-doubles-down-on-lawsuit-against-suno-adding-fresh-stream-ripping-allegations\/","title":{"rendered":"The music industry doubles down on lawsuit against Suno, adding fresh \u2018stream ripping\u2019 allegations"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 style=\"user-select: auto;\"><span style=\"color: #3366ff; user-select: auto;\">RIAA ups the pressure on AI music generator Suno, accusing it of ripping songs from YouTube to train its model.<\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3>The RIAA ups the anti<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has stepped up its legal fight against AI music generator Suno, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/inspired-by-anthropics-1-5b-book-piracy-payout-record-labels-accuse-suno-of-illegally-stream-ripping-music-from-youtube\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">MBW<\/a>. Representing the big three labels (Universal Music Group, Sony Music Entertainment, and Warner Music Group), the RIAA has amended its lawsuit to include a new allegation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The updated complaint alleges that Suno relied on the popular privacy method \u2018stream ripping\u2019 to download millions of copyrighted sound recordings from <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/free-youtube-music-distribution-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">YouTube<\/a>. These ripped tracks were then used to train the company\u2019s AI model.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The added allegations can be found from page 16 onwards <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/09\/Suno-Proposed-Amended-Complaint-Redacted35.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a><\/strong>, with a key section reading:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2025\/09\/Suno-Proposed-Amended-Complaint-Redacted35.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>\u201cSuno acquired many (if not all) of the copyrighted sound recordings in its training data by illicitly downloading them from YouTube using a notorious method of music piracy known as \u2018stream ripping\u2019\u201d.<\/strong><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3>A follow-up to another recent AI legal battle<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>This addition comes just weeks after AI company <a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/could-anthropics-ai-copyright-case-be-a-win-for-the-music-industry\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Anthropic<\/a> agreed to pay a $1.5 billion settlement to authors. That case also centred on evidence that copyrighted works had been illegally scraped and downloaded to train its AI model.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The parallels aren\u2019t lost on the majors. They now believe Suno likely trained their model in a similar fashion. The labels argue this act violates the Copyright Act\u2019s anti-circumvention rules, which exist to stop people from bypassing protections (protections that YouTube had in place) to guard protected works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>What\u2019s at stake?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, the major labels want compensation for any work that Suno illegally copied. They\u2019re now seeking statutory damages of up to $150,000 for each work infringed plus $2,500 for each time YouTube\u2019s protections were bypassed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On top of that, the lawsuit argues that Suno wouldn\u2019t have landed its reported $125 million in funding or its 12 million paid users without piggybacking off copyrighted music.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-routenote-blog wp-block-embed-routenote-blog\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"AVa1e8rsGB\"><a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/the-music-industry-vs-ai-music-generators-udio-suno\/\">The music industry Vs AI music generators Udio &#038; Suno<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;The music industry Vs AI music generators Udio &#038; Suno&#8221; &#8212; RouteNote Blog\" src=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/the-music-industry-vs-ai-music-generators-udio-suno\/embed\/#?secret=AVa1e8rsGB\" data-secret=\"AVa1e8rsGB\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3>What this means for the music industry<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>At its core, this case highlights the same message we keep hearing around AI and copyright: if you want to use protected works, copyright laws can\u2019t be ignored, and you need permission from the rights holders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While lawmakers have been slow to react to AI and copyright, the Anthropic settlement could be a sign of what\u2019s to come. Still, the RIAA\u2019s case against Suno remains a key moment for shaping the future of music and copyright- as well as how AI models can (and can\u2019t) be trained going forward.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Discover more about the timeline of Suno&#8217;s legal battles on the RouteNote Blog:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-routenote-blog wp-block-embed-routenote-blog\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"E5GwjcVrXU\"><a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/suno-admits-it-used-copyrighted-music-blames-majors\/\">Suno admits it used copyrighted music (blames majors)<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Suno admits it used copyrighted music (blames majors)&#8221; &#8212; RouteNote Blog\" src=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/suno-admits-it-used-copyrighted-music-blames-majors\/embed\/#?secret=E5GwjcVrXU\" data-secret=\"E5GwjcVrXU\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-routenote-blog wp-block-embed-routenote-blog\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"6AlvbJWKte\"><a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/suno-ai-sued-again-this-time-by-gema\/\">Suno AI sued again, this time by GEMA<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Suno AI sued again, this time by GEMA&#8221; &#8212; RouteNote Blog\" src=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/suno-ai-sued-again-this-time-by-gema\/embed\/#?secret=6AlvbJWKte\" data-secret=\"6AlvbJWKte\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-routenote-blog wp-block-embed-routenote-blog\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"A8KOP99tJc\"><a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/suno-udio-record-labels-licensing-talks\/\">Major record labels reportedly in licensing talks with Suno and Udio<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Major record labels reportedly in licensing talks with Suno and Udio&#8221; &#8212; RouteNote Blog\" src=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/suno-udio-record-labels-licensing-talks\/embed\/#?secret=A8KOP99tJc\" data-secret=\"A8KOP99tJc\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-routenote-blog wp-block-embed-routenote-blog\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"mEPLsNec6o\"><a href=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/musician-brings-the-fight-to-suno-and-udio-for-indie-music\/\">Musician brings the fight to Suno and Udio for indie music<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Musician brings the fight to Suno and Udio for indie music&#8221; &#8212; RouteNote Blog\" src=\"https:\/\/routenote.com\/blog\/musician-brings-the-fight-to-suno-and-udio-for-indie-music\/embed\/#?secret=mEPLsNec6o\" data-secret=\"mEPLsNec6o\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.routenote.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">You can get your music onto streaming platforms with RouteNote. 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