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		<title>Would Lady Gaga rather be Pirated than Spotted?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dashiel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As we published in this post, that&#8217;s certainly the standpoint of Swedish artist, Magnus Uggla and the Lady might well feel the same, based on the information in this post, saying that she was only paid a pittance by the Swedish performing rights society for a huge number of plays on the music streaming service Spotify: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/lady_gaga_kermit_outfit.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2196" style="margin: 5px;" title="Completely Gaga?" src="http://routenote.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/lady_gaga_kermit_outfit-300x239.jpg" alt="Completely Gaga?" width="300" height="239" /></a>As we published in this post, that&#8217;s certainly the standpoint of Swedish artist, <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/id-rather-be-raped-by-pirate-bay-than-go-with-spotify-090813/">Magnus Uggla</a> and the Lady might well feel the same, based on the information in <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/lady-gaga-earns-slightly-more-from-spotify-than-piracy-091121/">this post</a>, saying that she was only paid a pittance by the Swedish performing rights society for a huge number of plays on the music streaming service Spotify:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to a <a href="http://www.expressen.se/noje/1.1787187/lady-gaga-tjanar-1-150-kronor-pa-spotify">report</a> today, Lady Gaga’s track “Poker Face” was one of the most popular tracks during a five month period on Spotify and was played more than a million times. So how much money does she get paid by <a href="http://www.stim.se/">STIM</a> (the Swedish Performing Rights Society) for this massive achievement?</p>
<p>SEK 1150 – that’s around $167 or roughly 113 Euros.</p></blockquote>
<p>But that&#8217;s not quite the whole story&#8230; The performing rights contribution splits out to $0.000167 a play, but so what? Lady G (or more likely her record label) will also be being paid directly by Spotify with a flat fee per play (a couple of pennies per track) and a chunk of the service&#8217;s ad revenue. Lady Gaga&#8217;s direct revenues from that many streams will be in the five figure $USD range, and the performing rights system probably does more to support their own <a href="http://routenote.com/blog/prs-performing-rights-scam/">bureaucratic infrastructure</a> than it contributes towards paying her a sensible wage. It would be interesting to know exactly what proportion of their receipts is paid to artists, and what is spent on running the society, as well as why the PRS collects a fee for every track played on services like Spotify, even those of tracks by non-PRS-members.</p>
<p>Lily Allen has <a href="http://twitter.com/lilyroseallen/status/4033921083">previously complained</a> on Twitter <em>&#8220;</em><span><em>@</em><a href="http://twitter.com/citricsquid"><em>citricsquid</em></a><em> did you know the major own hold massive stakes in Spotify, and earn advertising revenue at yet another loss to the artist&#8221;</em><span> </span></span>that she&#8217;s not seeing any of the revenue from her Spotify plays, but this is likely to be because the majors have all <a href="http://www.macworld.co.uk/business/news/index.cfm?RSS&amp;NewsID=26830">bought shares</a> in Spotify, and are both giving them an easy ride on the music licensing fees and taking their own substantial cut of anything that comes back. Lily Allen would do well to have a little faith in Spotify, given her <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/lily-allen-filesharing-is-not-fair-1787582.html">well publicised feelings</a> <a href="http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendId=36707169&amp;blogId=510114316">against file sharing</a>.</p>
<p><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="400" height="300" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/HL9-esIM2CY&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="400" height="300" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/HL9-esIM2CY&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
<p>Of course, this diminished revenue wouldn&#8217;t be a problem if she&#8217;d signed her music up for <a href="http://routenote.com">digital distribution</a> to with someone like RouteNote, who get the full per track rate, and only take 10% on the back end.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emi.com/staticFiles/ef/24/0,,12641~140527,00.pdf"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2195" style="margin: 5px;" title="emi logo" src="http://routenote.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/emi-logo1.jpg" alt="emi logo" width="104" height="57" /></a></p>
<p>That said, the decision of the majors to support Spotify and <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/11/hulu-nabs-norah-and-emi.html">other streaming services</a> is a pragmatic one; if it is really the case that <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/6513919/Spotify-helps-curb-music-piracy.html">freemium services are reducing piracy</a> and providing a way for labels to <a href="http://routenote.com/blog/spotify-mog-streaming-piracy-and-the-future-of-digital-music/">&#8216;monetize&#8217; their catalogues</a> online then it makes sense for the majors to be in on the ground floor and take advantage of future success, especially since they&#8217;re looking such <a href="http://digitalmusicnews.com/stories/111709emi">ghastly</a> <a href="http://routenote.com/blog/emi-to-be-liquidated/">financials</a> [pg. 33 for the headlines] in the face. Right, now that&#8217;s sorted we can all go back to wondering whether or not the <a href="http://freakbits.com/is-lady-gaga-a-man-1121">Lady</a> is a <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=It's%20a%20Trap">trap</a>&#8230;<br />
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<li><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/home-taping-and-the-music-industry-pie/" title="Home Taping and the Music Industry Pie">Home Taping and the Music Industry Pie</a> &#8211; March 16, 2010</li>
<li><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/hands-out-of-pocket-warner-prepares-bid-for-emi-publishing/" title="Hands Out Of Pocket &#8211; Warner Prepares Bid For EMI Publishing">Hands Out Of Pocket &#8211; Warner Prepares Bid For EMI Publishing</a> &#8211; March 22, 2010</li>
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<li><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/high-profile-artists-accept-file-sharing/" title="High Profile Artists Accept File Sharing">High Profile Artists Accept File Sharing</a> &#8211; January 25, 2010</li>
<li><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/digital-piracy-round-2-appropriate-damages/" title="Digital Piracy Round 2 &#8211; Appropriate Damages">Digital Piracy Round 2 &#8211; Appropriate Damages</a> &#8211; January 7, 2010</li>
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		<title>45,000 People Downloaded The New u2 Album via Torrent Sites in 2 Weeks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Finchy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Music Ally has reported that over 445,000 people illegally downloaded the new U2 album. All these downloaded were alleged to happen between the 18th of February till the 3rd of March from BitTorrent sites. The chart supplied by the company shows the spike in downloads following the album’s leak in February, apparently due to it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="aligncenter" title="u2 bittorrent downloads" src="http://musically.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/u2-bittorrent-downloads.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="231" /><a href="http://musically.com/blog/2009/03/09/445-people-downloaded-the-new-u2-album-illegally/" target="_blank">Music Ally</a> has reported that over 445,000 people illegally downloaded the new U2 album. All these downloaded were alleged to happen between the 18th of February till the 3rd of March from BitTorrent sites.</p>
<p>The chart supplied by the company shows the spike in downloads following the album’s leak in February, apparently due to it being accidentally made available for sale on an Australian digital music store ahead of its official release on 2nd March.</p>
<p>The debate is always would these people have purchased the album if it wasn&#8217;t leaked on BitTorrent clients? No one can really answer that question, but I&#8217;m sure that certain sales would have happened because of this.</p>
<p>Overall this does make me think that the <a href="http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/pirate-bay-says-80-percent-its-torrents-are-legal/2009-02-24" target="_blank">claims</a> of the Pirate Bay in the last couple weeks that &#8220;80 percent of all their torrents are legal&#8221;, cant be true.<br />
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<li><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/universal-music-and-youtube-partner-for-new-music-vide-website/" title="Universal Music and YouTube Partner for New Music Vide Website">Universal Music and YouTube Partner for New Music Vide Website</a> &#8211; March 7, 2009</li>
<li><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/tesco-has-the-new-u2-album-for-only-397/" title="Tesco Has The New U2 Album for Only £3.97">Tesco Has The New U2 Album for Only £3.97</a> &#8211; March 6, 2009</li>
<li><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/pirate-bay-claims-80-of-all-their-torrent-traffic-is-legal/" title="Pirate Bay Claims 80% Of All Their Torrent Traffic Is Legal">Pirate Bay Claims 80% Of All Their Torrent Traffic Is Legal</a> &#8211; February 23, 2009</li>
<li><a href="http://routenote.com/blog/itunes-accounts-for-82-of-total-digital-revenues-for-cd-baby/" title="iTunes Accounts for 82% of Total Digital Revenues for CD Baby">iTunes Accounts for 82% of Total Digital Revenues for CD Baby</a> &#8211; February 18, 2009</li>
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		<title>P2P Music Downloads Worth $69 billion. Is Digital Music Distribution Going Down The Toilet?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Finchy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 2007 P2P music downloads were worth a staggering $69 billion, and all other forms of movie/television piracy are on the rise. Techcrunch has been talking a lot about using music online as a free promotion tool, because eventually music will be free online. If record labels do use music online as a free promotional [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2007 P2P music downloads were worth a staggering <a id="ph:p" title="$69 billion" href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2008/11/unlicensed-musi.html" target="_blank">$69 billion</a>, and all other forms of movie/television piracy are on the rise.</p>
<p><a id="ctpv" title="Techcrunch" href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/19/how-can-the-music-industry-be-in-trouble-with-all-this-free-promotion/" target="_blank">Techcrunch</a> has been talking a lot about using music online as a free promotion tool, because eventually music will be free online. If record labels do use music online as a free promotional tool then they need to have other revenue stream. Warner Music is signing their new artists to <a id="lqk2" title="360 deals" href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/08/360-music-deals-become-mandatory-as-labels-prepare-for-free-music/" target="_blank">360 deals</a>, in which allows them to have all revenues streams.</p>
<p>Somebody over there needs to put their thinking cap on, quit screwing around and just give the damn music away for free with no lawsuit strings attached.<br />
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